The latest entry in The Fast and the Furious franchise, The Fate of the Furious, is knocking it out of the ballpark at the box office, clearing over half a (Dr. Evil voice here) billion dollars in its first weekend, and even beating out Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

The news isn’t 100-percent good for many fans of the street-racing series, though. This was a franchise that barely made it to theaters in the first place, then won our hearts through grassroots good times and great car stunts. (And monologues about family!) I know many have cooled on the series, feeling it leans too close to Transformers or insert-your-fave-comic-book-franchise-here. But why?

The original was great in that it gave life to cars only those in tune with video games like Gran Turismo understood. If you weren’t in the know, the Honda Civics, Acura Integras, and Volkswagen Jettas in the film were just compact cars you saw everywhere, albeit ones fitted with wild vinyl work; under-body neon lights; and mutant aerodynamic addenda. And what’s a Nissan Skyline, anyway?

The movies took the tired old muscle-car-versus-everything car chase formula and turned it on its ear, targeting a younger demographic. Of course it had muscle cars, too: while adults may have only found out about tuner Civics from the movies, the kids similarly got an introduction to Dom’s classic 1970 Charger via the film.

Now, however, it’s gotten a little ridiculous; actually, as soon as they started hauling safes through cities in the fifth installment, it had cleanly broken away from its grungier roots, the ones many fans loved.

In that light, we thought instead of compiling a list of the “best cars of the Fast and Furious franchise,” we’d have a look at some of the weird and wonderful cars you may have missed—as well as some of the cars that missed the mark themselves.

(Images from IMCDB)